JA wrote:

>The American Machinist's Handbook, section 42, Machine-tool inspection, engine lathe
>accuracy.

Where do the section numbers (like 42) come from? Not a single copy I've looked at has
any section numbers to be found. Nor can I find the two topics mentioned (not verbatim).
I'm having zero success finding the reference you are pointing to.

also,

>The New American Machinist's Handbook published by McGraw-Hill is approximately 1600 pages.

Every copy I see is only 7-800 pages. Where do all those extra pages come from?

CC,
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. At the very bottom of the photo you can see 1572 pages. I believe you can also read what is written up above & to the right where sections 1 through 24 are shown.
JA

OK, here is the important distinction, the title must have the words "The New" included and
the edition date must be 1955 - none of the earlier editions have 1547 pages.

books.google.com/books/about/T...id=zN9SAAAAMAAJ

"The New American Machinist's Handbook" was only published in 1955 (with some reprints done
in 1984) - any other earlier publishing dates for the "American Machinist's Handbook" have a
much smaller page count. AFAICT, the 1955 edition is no longer in print and has never been
scanned for download even though the Google Books page show it as digitized in 2007. I'm
becoming convinced that buying a used copy is the only option as far as obtaining that
specific edition (1955) is concerned.

There are lots of sites with the "American Machinist's Handbook" available for free DL - but
none of them make available "The New American Machinist's Handbook" (1955).

I Googled where to buy The American Machinist's Handbook & it looks like there are many places to get a copy, used or new from $20.00 to $175.00.

JA wrote:

>I Googled where to buy The American Machinist's Handbook & it looks like there are many places
>to get a copy, used or new from $20.00 to $175.00.

That is true as well. But why would anyone want to pay for a copy when they can download
"The American Machinist's Handbook" for free from lots of different web sites? It has been
scanned many times by several different people. Unless a person just really wants a hard
copy of the older text for some reason, there is no need to buy one.

What is distinctly different and also includes additional material not found in the older
editions of the "American Machinist's Handbook" is:

"The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" (First Print Date 1955 - Copyright 1955 - 1547 pages)

- just like the one you have
- cannot be DLed anywhere
- no longer in print
- no CD/DVD copies are known to be available
- very likely has never been scanned
- can only be obtained by buying a used hardcopy (or local library)

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A quote from the wiki page:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American...nists'_Handbook

"American Machinists' Handbook, coedited by Fred H. Colvin and Frank A. Stanley, went through eight
editions between 1908 and 1945. In 1955, McGraw-Hill published The New American Machinist's Handbook.
Based upon earlier editions of American machinists' handbook (sic; note the apostrophe usage
difference within that title), but presumably the book did not compete well enough with Machinery's
Handbook, because no subsequent editions were produced."

Decided to pull the trigger on a copy of "The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" from
Barnes and Noble's Marketplace (used book reselling system).

www.barnesandnoble.com/w/new-a...n=9780070370654

ISBN-13: 9780070370654
Publisher: McGraw-Hill Companies, The
Publication date: 6/1/1955

I've been watching this site for several days and it looks like there is a steady flow
of copies getting listed and then being sold. If it's not the best place to find a copy
then it is a least one of the better ones. Amazon (and others) are selling them as well.

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Got my hands on a copy of "The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" (my local public
library borrowed one) and I see where some confusion has come from.

Only "The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" is divided into Part One through Part
Eleven (like Chapters) which are then subdivided again into numbered sections.

The "American Machinist's Handbook" is divided in parts which are not numbered and
there are no section numbers. The Table Of Contents is organized by unnumbered Parts
which are then subdivided into topic headings followed by the page where a specific
topic can be found.

In spite of the two titles being similar, the method of organization within each text
is very different - so much so that is virtually impossible to find a reference cited in
one of the texts using the other title.

I realize the minutia explained here is boring at best. If it helps us stay on the
same page with respect to the different machinist handbooks, then it was worthwhile.

Topic: Summary Of Popular Machinist's Handbooks And Texts

I'm trying to create a summary of the frequently mentioned machinist handbooks and
where they can be found. Several of the most valuable texts are free and can be
downloaded online.
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The scanned copies of the "The American Machinist Handbook" are numerous and of varying
quality as far as the scan work is concerned. One of the cleanest copies I've seen is:

archive.org/details/americanmachinis00colv

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There are not that many scanned copies of "Machinery's Handbook" to consider. This is
the URL where the server performance has been reliable for me. Takes a while to DL all
the different .pdfs but the scan work looks to be above average. 330 MB:

www.brightonk12.com/webpages/m...subpage=1305723

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The somewhat rare but very desirable "The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" has
never been scanned that I have been able to confirm. Barnes and Noble (other book
resellers also) are selling used copies on a regular basis. Here is a sample site
where used copies (condition varies) keep getting listed and then resold:

www.barnesandnoble.com/w/new-a...n=9780070370654

Note: This text was available from almost any public library in years past. More and
more public libraries are removing it from the shelves. In many instances, it can still
be borrowed (inter library book loan program) by any local library.
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The Army/Navy training manuals are very interesting reads and have an obvious "basic
machinist textbook" focus which any new student machinist will appreciate.

www.instructables.com/id/Basic...ationtextbooks/

The copy of "The New American Machinist's Handbook" I purchased from Barnes and Noble's
Marketplace arrived. To say the least, I am delighted with getting a good condition copy
for $20.00. Buying one of these is a gamble as to the condition one might receive and in
this instance the gamble paid off well here.

The text is everything JA has described it as and more. First took a tour through the
"Threads And Threading" section and now I'm somewhere in the "Turning and Boring" section.
The intricate detail, helpful diagrams and well written explanations are top drawer.

"The *NEW* American Machinist's Handbook" gets a big thumbs up here. Also, many thanks to
JA for steering this student in the right direction on machinist's handbooks.

Good deal Mr. CC,

Be sure to read & study carefully Section 42, Machine-Tool Inspection, engine-lathe accuracy. This could save many unsuspecting byers of name brand used & new machinery from wasting money.

JA

I know that concern. I lived through it earning degree after degree while working for about 25 different non-union (where you learn skill) machine shops. It was 1978 when china decided to give "semi private business" a try, then the rules for outsourcing were put in place. This is not Capitalism. It is government(s) directed production as international redistribution---to collectivist/communist Nations. Consider it part of the globalization (NWO), because it is. The move created dependency, (17% in the 70's were dependent on Gov in one way or another---now a even 50% or more by now) and a horde of desperate voters left with choosing from 2 progressive leaders,---leading us to be as poor as any Nation.

What are they replacing it with? "Dysfunction", "Arts and Crafts", anything that does not produce.
The global tyrants know wind mills do not run factories. They don't care.

We have to dismantle the party system for voting to save our Republic, and put in place a system based on the individual, with a equal chance to win (not just run) 100% based on their merit, and not pocket book or party affiliation.

If I were the 2016 elected President, I would do a executive order after a working plan is constructed, and eliminate the Rep and Dem party. Plus fix education to be geared toward invention and production, and put Capitalism back kin the hands of the citizenry where it belongs. Simply put, it is called communism when the government(s) run the economy, and that is what we are dealing with. communism stealing our capitalism. The result is increased citizen poverty, the inability for any citizen to be allowed to create their own wealth, and a very powerful government that can dictate everything in our lives.

In fact, if anybody doubts we are dealing with communism, the indoctrination has been so great, I bet you can't define communism. (anybody who thinks I am wrong)

I feel like running for office out of retaliation,---for sabotaging all of our lives! I would even take a communist bullet to help save our Republic, because I sure as heck know I don't want anybody to be forced to live under 100% collectivism. It has to be Hell!

Can you imagine the corruption that would instantly start to crumble---if we could executive ordered away the party system? Most if not all Government corruption is tied through the party system--as designed. It was designed to drag us left (or used that way for the last 50 plus years)---and it sure worked.
Any "results" orientated individual can easily see that IMO.

Engineers for office? You bet!

A personal subject to me. sorry for dragging on.